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Tuesday, September 29, 2015

R.I.P. Ray Crowe


Loren Coleman had the news today. Ray had a heart attack in a care facility for vets.

Read a touching obit about Ray written by his friend

Ray was famous for his "The Track Record" newsletter, which usually bore the humorous (and serious) admonishment, "KEEP YOUR SKEPTICALS ON."

He ran the Western (International) Bigfoot Society during a crucial period where the hype of the seventies had died out, but before the big transformation of Bigfooting in the late nineties, with the advent of the influence of the internet.

RIP, Ray. You'll be missed.

It's a bit shocking to hear this today, though we'd long heard his health wasn't good, but just this morning I'd received an email from Larry Lund that said Ray was doing better.
"For those interested, Ray is doing much better and the Doctor is saying he expects Ray to be around for at least another year. He has been transferred to a new Veterans Care Facility in Lebanon, Oregon. Here is the address that you can send correspondence to. For now, just send it to Charles R. Crowe in care of the facility. I should have the exact mailing directly to him and will post it immediately. Any questions you may contact me at any time.
Charles R. Crowe
600 North 5th Street
Lebanon, OR. 97355
Till I know more…..
All The Best,Larry"

Read a longer article we wrote on Ray years back here:

The Track Record Update: Ray Crowe--Who Is This Guy, Anyway?

Friday, September 11, 2015

Nickowitz Fire Still Burning above Bluff Creek and Bigfoot Historical Zone

Burning since lightning struck on August 1st, the Nickowitz Fire is still active right above the historic Bluff Creek Bigfoot area. It burned within only a half a mile of the Patterson-Gimlin Film Site, as you may see in the following graphic. This was the closest the fire burned, in mid-late August.

Currently the fire has been largely contained, but is still active in hot, dry conditions, with occasional winds coming off the coast to the inland. It will likely burn until the first heavy rains of fall. Here is the current official ops map for Sept. 11th. The PGF site is a small red dot to the right.

Bluff Creek itself remains closed, with heavy penalties if you go up there (so don't). The roads away from the fire and the creek basin, The G-O Road to 12N12, Slate Creek, and Cedar Camp are still open, as is the Fish Lake/Onion Mountain (Bluff Creek) Road up almost to Onion Lake (which latter is in the closure zone).

Here is the map detailing the road/area closures that are still in effect indefinitely.


Wednesday, August 26, 2015

Fire Update: Nickowitz Fire, above Bluff Creek.

Fire detail, showing just how close the
fire is to Bluff Creek Bigfoot history.
Click Map to Enlarge for Detail

The NICKOWITZ FIRE continues to burn and move on its southern and western flanks, away from the fire line above the PGF site, but slowly creeping toward Notice Creek. Conditions now aren't bad, but a sudden change in the winds could spell disaster. The area around the fire, including the whole upper Bluff Creek basin in now CLOSED until the fire is considered to be out. This could mean the entire remaining summer-fall season. This fire started at the beginning of August, and was due to a lightning strike.

For more info. and some photos of the area go here:

Get official updates here:

Even though Bluff Creek is closed all around the fire right now, our trail cameras are still watching the area.

Here is the full area fire map.
Click maps to enlarge for detail.

Sunday, July 5, 2015

BLUFF CREEK PROJECT Trail Camera Funding Drive Back in Action


The Bluff Creek Trail Camera Project funding drive is back in action for Summer, 2015.

Here's the latest great wildlife video the project has gotten...

 You, too, can participate in this public, crowd-sourced research project by sponsoring a camera to be placed in Bluff Creek or at the PGF site. Even small donations covering batteries and bear boxes help. All funds to to supporting the equipment, and not to buying beer or toys for the Project members.

Here's the link to the IndieGoGo page...


Here's the latest update from Jamie S.

"Summer 2015 Update:
We had a pretty crazy winter out on Bluff Creek. We had multiple Mountain Lion encounters with the cameras and many huge bears. The animals seemed to stay longer in the creek than usual. Over the last few years there was almost no animal activity from December through February. We had bears and deer all winter long walking in front of the cameras. I am still editing the videos. We have many hours of footage to assemble. We did have many camera malfunctions over the winter as well. The two older Bushnell cameras at the film site had stopped working after only one month of filming. It continuously recorded for two days straight then filled up the 32gb memory card. The other camera only functioned for a few days. It's not too bad because we had five cameras installed there overlapping the area. Our brand new camera at the MK Davis site had also failed. There was no memory card in it. I had noted that a card was installed and I am sure there was one in it when we bolted it to the tree. I think it was stolen by someone hiking the creek, but it is possible it was just simply an oversight. This season we hope to retire all of the older cameras and replace them with four new Bushnell Trophy Cams. We have bear boxes for everything already and I have purchased some high quality boron carbide master locks. We also were able to purchase a brand new Bushnell camera with a generous donation from a family who came down to the film site with us in June. So that camera is operating now in a new location adjacent to the film site. We hope this season will be better than the rest and we will concentrate of dialing in our camera traps and securing them.

Winter 2015 update:It's that time of year again. We need to raise funds to buy batteries for our trail cameras. It costs $12.90 for a single set of batteries for the trail cams. We use Energizer Lithiums so they're not cheap. If we buy in bulk it's about $1.07 a battery. We have twenty cameras to service so it all adds up. We would also like to purchase at least two new Bushnell HD cameras to install at our second location at the high lakes on the ridge over Bluff Creek. These cameras are currently $144.99 on right now and we would like two to replace two aging units that are starting to malfunction. All the cameras down at the film site have been running for three months straight now and we can't get in there to service them until May. Until then they will continue to document the wildlife and hopefully a Bigfoot.

Fall 2014 update:9/30/2014We just finished servicing all of the cameras to prepare for winter. All of the cameras have fresh batteries and are armed. We had an incredibly successful summer down on Bluff Creek. We were able to make four trips down to the film site and install three new cameras, as well as six new bear boxes. We raised a lot of money over the summer and were able to purchase two brand new 2014 Bushnell MAX Black HD cameras. These new Bushnell cameras are incredible. They take HD video while simultaneously capturing 8mp still photos for high resolution analysis. We are so stoked on these cameras that we want to focus on replacing a couple of our older cameras with these new models. After some calculation I have determined that our optimum number of trail cameras in the field is 25. Right now we have 19 operating cameras. Nineteen cameras is a lot to service but I feel comfortable handling up to about 25 at our current labor capacity. They take three people two days to service all of them, and they cost $382 for batteries for the whole year. I had a few people asking about donating to project after the Summer crowdfunding campaign ended so I decided to start a fall campaign. For more details about our project please visit out facebook page and watch our videos on youtube."

Wednesday, June 24, 2015


The BLUFF CREEK PROJECT has a new blog up that has handy links to the project including its Facebook page, its trail camera results and video links, trip reports, the public research funding page, information about the Project and how to contact it. There is even a new page featuring directions to the Patterson-Gimlin Bigfoot Film Site on Bluff Creek.

Check it out at:

As a sampler, here is one of our latest videos, captured by two cameras right on the famous film site. Enjoy!


Friday, June 19, 2015

New Jonny Dagger "Scientific" Paper Seeks to Prove Bigfoot with Chewed and Stacked Prey Animal Bones

Is this man really a scientist?
Yep, he's not a college professor, and he's not a scientist, and he is not a Special Ops commando. He is the co-author of a verbose impersonation of science in the newly-released 80-page "treatise" called, "Using Biotic Taphonomy Signature Analysis and Neoichnology Profiling to determine the identity of the carnivore taxa responsible for the deposition and mechanical mastication of three independent prey bone assemblages in the Mount St. Helen’s ecosystem of the Cascade mountain range." No kidding, that was long. Were all of those big words necessary? Read the paper through the link below, or just read our paraphrastic translation into common English, which we offer here.

There are 80 pages of this complete overblown pseudoscience, plus notes.

Get the full four megabyte PDF here:

Mitchel Townsend, a.k.a., "Jonny Dagger," a fake paramilitary Bigfoot hunter often seen on YouTube, seems to mix fantasy and reality, having his fictional character discover his "real life" piles of bones supposedly gnawed upon by an unknown giant hominid.  In real life he is a sometime Continuing Education teacher who likes to  pretend he is a college professor. Could it be that his macho commando alter-ego is a form of compensation for inherent nerdiness? Read our translation below and see if his writing makes any sense at all. You might have already heard about him, but not Jonny Dagger, through this Yakima Herald article:

Watch the Johnny Dagger identity blend with the College Nerd one here, on his YouTube page:

Studying some decaying bones and tracks we think were left by a predator we look at the shape of the pile and chewing marks on three piles of dead stuff found near a volcano in Washington.
We found three piles of bones and some things that looked like tracks near Mount St. Helens that we thought we could study for the decay of the bones and look of the tracks that to us could only be a new kind of predator. This mountain is in Washington, in a long western range going up to Canada from NorCal. We want to sound pretentious in this paper that pretends to show facts and coherent thought about some dead bones and tracks we found. But I already said that. We're comparing three piles of this junk and some tracks. Our assumptions about this will be compared to a bunch of other widespread claims people make (about Bigfoot). We think we've gotten rid of all other possible animals that could have left this piling of bones, and we thought we'd better consider all kinds of theories from all over the place, and pretend to be scientists. This took us like years, so we hope others will like our paper and look for their own piles of dead stuff. Heck, maybe we can even impress some real scientists or academic dudes? Maybe they'll take us seriously and look into this stuff we pretentiously present in this overwritten paper. We use some big words that aren't really necessary, then we tell some stories about our "research," then we tell you about how we looked at this stuff and presumed Bigfoot did it, so we call for more people to look at what we're saying.

The Original Text:
"Using Biotic Taphonomy Signature Analysis and Neoichnology Profiling to determine the identity of the carnivore taxa responsible for the deposition and mechanical mastication of three independent prey bone assemblages in the Mount St. Helen’s ecosystem of the Cascade mountain range
The discovery of three independent prey bone assemblages and track evidence within a 17 mile radius of Mount St. Helen’s [SIC] presented a unique opportunity to establish baseline Taphonomic and Neoichnologic profiles of a currently unclassified carnivore taxa. Mount St. Helen’s is located within the Cascade Mountain range ecosystem of central Washington State. This mountain range extends from Southern British Columbia to Northern California. The methodologies for this scholarly essay will focus upon chronologically presenting facts, measurements, and analysis based upon the discovery, collection, and synthesis of physical post mortem forensic evidence within an integrated Taphonomic and Ichnologic research framework. These individual and categorical conclusions will then be cross compared in the process of illuminating potential commonalities and evidence based linkages to geographically separated site and evidence profiles. The careful elimination of all of currently classified biological possibilities that may have been responsible for the deposition of this physical evidence required the expansion of methodology and scope of inquiry to include all possibilities both geographical and theoretical in the search for truth as required by the foundations of scientific inquiry. Furthermore, the conclusions drawn from this multi-year research effort should help to enable the collection and comparison of further regionalized prey assemblages against the baseline results of this study as well as encourage additional scholarly attention from anthropologists, forensics scientists, and wildlife biologists in a renewed effort to bring further understanding and clarity to the conclusions illuminated within this treatise. This effort is organized into the following main categories: taphonology and ichnology, discovery and collection narrative, taphonomic and neoichnologic research frameworks, evidence examination, evidence analysis, evidence conclusions, and a call for expanded cross disciplinary examination and discussion."

What does this mean?: "...expansion of methodology and scope of inquiry to include all possibilities both geographical and theoretical in the search for truth." Nothing specific. It means, basically, having an open mind to everything, because we can't explain it otherwise, looking at all theories across the planet for this "truth" thing, because we all know that "science" doesn't know it already. This is CLASSIC bullshit paranormal-speak, pseudo-scientific babble, disguised as scientific discourse.

The paper features just about THE worst "Bigfoot" track ever.

Yes, there is no way it could have been... a porcupine.

Want some more information and some interesting clues? Read more on Reddit and the Bigfoot Forums:

"Scientific papers are for sharing your own original research work with other scientists or for reviewing the research conducted by others. As such, they are critical to the evolution of modern science, in which the work of one scientist builds upon that of others. To reach their goal, papers must aim to inform, not impress. They must be highly readable — that is, clear, accurate, and concise. They are more likely to be cited by other scientists if they are helpful rather than cryptic or self-centered."


Wednesday, June 10, 2015


Recently, the famous YouTube page of Mike Patterson, aka SASQUATCH ONTARIO was shut down due to a copyright claim by the owner of the "habituation" property. The issue was some personal photos in the video, and the possible exposure of private identities. Mike, the beloved human of "Nephatia," a marble-loving, talking Bigfoot, has been expelled and booted from YouTube. Now there is a NEW Sasquatch Ontario page up, at least bearing that name, though it seems to be an anti-Mike page now, apparently run by the Property Owner. I think these two videos clearly reveal that Mike was a hoaxer, especially the audio one.

The OTHER side of the story?

This raw audio reveals more clearly than ever before that the Nephatia vocalizations were hoaxed.I think these videos were made by the property owner to expose the hoax. The audio is clearly recorded indoors with a close mic and wooden props, with no "Nature" sound effects or enhancements that Mike would usually add. The information in the preceding video is disparaging to Mike. This is a new account, appropriating the name of Mike's old one. There seems to be an undermining intent here.



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Thursday, June 4, 2015


Here's a cautionary tale.... Pareidolia follows you wherever your mind goes! And... the clickbait sites are betting you'll want to believe it, or at least look long enough for them to make .001 of a cent.

Ohio Man Encounters and Photographs Multiple ‘Bigfoot Creatures’?

Apparently those vicious, dangerous Blobsquatches just ripped common sense right out of this guy's head. Really, there is nothing there but water, snow, and some barren trees. Apparently one is going to find whatever blob one wishes to by staring at the mound or rootball at center right.

This is actually a story of how BS stories spread. First it appeared on the "fake-news" site, Cryptozoology News dot com on June 2nd, 2015. Then it appeared on another site, Bigfoot Daily, on June 4th in the *exact* same words. Soon, I am sure, it will be featured credulously on Bigfoot Evidence.

Links, if you care to fall for the CLICKBAIT. I'd rather recommend boycotting these two sites, though:

And, just to check how long it takes for the biggest Bigfoot bunkum news aggregator to find it, here:

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The Latest Messin' with Sasquatch. Will Humans Ever Learn?


Here is the latest exploitation from Jack Link's processed meat products company.

"Messin' with Sasquatch: Flashlights"

Will the Humans ever learn?
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Tuesday, June 2, 2015

Bigfoot Psychic and Mystic KEWAUNEE Speaks, in a Recent Interview

"It was in September of 1979, in Wisconsin, out on a farm... where a Sasquatch started to talk with me telepathically, and then moments later an ET from a spaceship,... in a UFO as you people call it... I wasn't afraid, but it was the shock of my life, in experiencing mental telepathy."

If you thought "cloaking" was weird, well here's way more of that kind of thing.

The author of...
...The Cosmic Diaper.
And... The Psychedelic Sasquatch.

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Thursday, November 20, 2014

Woo and Hoaxing Outweigh Reason at the Sasquatch Summit

I hate to have to say it, but I've made the personal decision to boycott the SASQUATCH SUMMIT this weekend. Why? Because it is enabling and promoting HOAXING and DELUSIONAL THINKING. Though there are indeed some good speakers on the roster, Bart Cutino cancelled when he heard Matthew Johnson was added as a speaker, Derek Randles is no longer appearing on the pop-up images of those presenting on the main web page for the event (though he does appear on the schedule and speakers list, his presence seems to have been demoted). With TODD STANDING and some real Woo-sters speaking, I can't see this turning out well at all. Even Jeff Meldrum is likely to get swept up in the complications of his association with Standing. This whole event will likely be nothing but a big argument about the "Sylvanic" garbage, and will vault the hoaxing Todd into the USA media, which is exactly what he wants. I cannot support or condone such a confused event. I had planned upon going, but no more.

Here is how the roster of speakers weigh in for the event...
Five MEGA-WOO characters.
One complete HOAXER.
Three rationalists.
Two guys I don't know of at all.
One cool country singer.
One Gimlin, who defies category.
Note in the following two poster versions how the speakers have changed. I don't see another current one, but Todd Standing has been moved into the prime-time Saturday HEADLINER spot where it is said "he releases all." Matthew Johnson's addition was not noted on a poster, but he stirred up so much controversy that he removed himself and declared that he would put on his own conference next year.

With the Woo-Woos defeating the rationalists in numbers already, who wins? Whose conference is this, anyway? Well, here is what I say...

It's just for attention, fame, and DVD sales. This imbecilic "protection" scheme of his worked to get him on TV in Canada before, and now he's aimed his con at the USA market. He wants to support legislation in the USA with supposed evidence gathered in Canada? He will be laughed out of Washington and Washington, DC. Hoaxing is inherently cynical. Standing is a hoaxer. Therefore he cannot really be sincere in his "protection" lobbying. This is a raw con. The mark is us, but namely the larger society of news consumers rather than the Bigfooting community. His aim is fame, with money to follow. He can simply produce the DVD on demand and sell it that way. The film is already basically in the can and done. He does not need $900K for any of this. I'm certain he won't raise the $900,000 he wants on his Kickstarter page, but events like the Sasquatch Summit will only raise his profile among the gullible.

Bigfoot Evidence blog has already spun this stuff from Facebook into a "news" story, distorting it completely.

Here is that silly post on BIGFOOT EVIDENCE...

Here's a funny one from the Reverend Jeffrey Kelley showing the truth of the Sylvanic situation...


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Tuesday, November 18, 2014

Has Doctor Johnson Lost His Bigfoot Marbles? ORBS!

This stuff is beyond words, folks. As if "cloaking" were not enough.

Listen to a certified psychologist speak with invisible Bigfoot/Sasquatch/Forest People while their "orbs" dance around his bedroom. Hear his lady friend follow his lead even while she cannot see these things he claims to see. One suspects that the "orbs" he is seeing may be his own lost "marbles," or maybe just lights shining in his window from cars or maybe an airport nearby. Or, maybe, it's the very light from his own cell phone camera reflecting off objects in his room?

Here is what Matthew Johnson posted on Facebook today. Find the entire, astonishing video embedded below.

Go here if the video embed doesn't work for you:

The Coalition for Reason, Science, and Sanity in Bigfoot Research

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Sunday, February 17, 2013


Bigfoot DNA Paper Publisher and Author and Apparently Editor and Peer-Reviewer of Her Own Paper, MELBA KETCHUM.

Date: 02-17-13
Host: George Knapp
Guests: Dr. Melba S. Ketchum, Lynne D. Kitei M.D.
1st Half: Joining George Knapp, Dr. Melba S. Ketchum discusses the official release of her DNA analysis of possible Bigfoot hair samples.

That is right. Will they ask the tough questions, however?

An anonymous DNA Project insider sent these questions to me last night, and I think they are important. Here you go... maybe someone can get through and ask them live on the air?

(Submitted to me by someone who wishes to remain anonymous.)

1. Dr. Ketchum's excuse for not uploading the data to GenBank has been disputed by a scientist at Princeton. How does George know her "documentation" is valid? Is it something that could have been faked? Can he actually SPEAK to someone at GenBank to get a confirmation directly from them and NOT filtered through her?

2. Can he SPEAK with the editor of the "journal" where her paper passed peer review for direct confirmation of her story, including the sequence of events?

3. What is the name of the original journal?

4. Can this editor confirm the purchase of the journal?

5. How did Melba fund the purchase of this journal?

6. What scientific society owned it previously and how/why did they agree to the sale?

7. How much did acquisition of the journal cost?

8. What happened to the journal's staff and editor? Did they lose their jobs? If not, why are they not listed on the website?

9. Why didn't the purchase of the journal include its original website? Why throw together such a cheap-looking one with none of the standard information you see on other journal pages?

10. Why didn't she keep the original journal's name and publication record?

11. Why are there no citations for this journal?

12. Why is there no evidence of this journal ever existing before?

13. Who are these "top" geneticists who have come forward to review the paper?

14. Why must they be anonymous?

15. When they have their findings, will this be made public with their NAMES and professional credentials/affiliations provided? Or will this information also be filtered through her while they remain "anonymous?"

16. Why have two of her coauthors said that they never even saw the paper (as reported on JREF).

17. Why are her coauthors silent? Why have the coauthors not spoken up about their roles in the paper, or to defend its findings?

18. If GenBank's refusal of her data is legitimate, will she freely share this data with other researchers in an open-source manner?

19. Will she provide her data to Sykes? Immediately?


More Info. Here, from Bigfoot Evidence Blog:

The best scientific news article questioning this study so far released, by Ars Technica:
URGH. I hope to have answers from my two scientist friends re. all of this soon. At this point it doesn't look good for "finding Bigfoot" with Real Science.

Friday, January 4, 2013

The "Come On" and "Ketchum Head" Bigfoot Image Controversy

The Bigfoot art of Alexa (Alex) Evans if pretty fabulous. Bigfoot geneticist and media maven Melba Ketchum thought so, too--enough to try to possess two pieces of her art without paying for them, claiming rights despite having no contract with Evans, and refusing even a very fair offer of $75.00 for exlusive use. This seems pretty odd for a now-famous woman appearing on CNN and Coast-to-Coast AM and such, one formerly rolling in the cold cash of benefactors, and one claiming such high purposes of constitutional rights for a so-called "human" Sasquatch. What about rights for human artists???

Read the full story, The Crypto Crew: Bullying From Dr. Ketchum?, here:
You will see that the loyal crew of the Ketchum Project are rapidly jumping ship, and for what appears to be good reason.

The deal is this: Evans drew a nice Bigfoot face from a blurry photo provided by Melba Ketchum. They never signed a contract. Nothing was ever paid. No rights were transferred. It is clear in copyright law that an artistic rendition inspired by a photograph is the property of the artist, not the photographer. In this case the details had to be added as the original image was not very clear. This further cements the artist's clear rights. Here is that drawing, The "Ketchum Head":
Drawn in 2011, inspired by a photo.
Before ever seeing the Ketchum photo Evans drew a similar image, entitled "Come On," and publicly posted on the Oregon Bigfoot site over a year earlier. Ketchum tried to claim ownership of this OTHER image for her DNA project or Sasquatch Wild Wear clothing line, even though it had nothing to do with her or her photo or any commission agreement. It was done from a witness' sighting description. Here is that image:
"Come On," Ketchum! Drawn over a year earlier, from witness description.
It should be clear to anyone that the similarity is the style of the artist, not the source, save that they both depict Bigfoot heads. Why Ketchum would threaten a cancer-survivor on limited income with a lawsuit is clear: she thought she could scare the artist into surrendering her rights for fear of an expensive legal case.

Here is some email between Alex and myself:
ALEX EVANS: "...she provided a photo of a bigfoot face, which was a good photo, but still, small and when I blew it up, had little real detail I could use in a practical way, so I did my best with it and made a drawing, which I just called ketchum head for reference. I will send that to you as well.  Anything else I can help with this controversy, just let me know, I'd be happy to lend some truth to what's happened.
THIS BLOG: So, no legal issues with K are legitimate??
ALEX EVANS: No, none.... I never signed over any copyrights to my drawings or signed any sort of agreement with her.

What, weren't all those hundreds of thousands of dollars from Wally and Adrian enough for you, Melba? Despicable. Does she really even care about Bigfoot? Or is she just in this for the money and fame? I'll let you decide, but know that some of her most loyal associates are now saying it is clearly the latter.


Monday, December 17, 2012

Release Date of the MELBA KETCHUM BIGFOOT DNA STUDY Finally Announced!

Well, we have waited forever for this. Igor Burtsev of Russia and Robyn Lynne ForestPeople of Lalaland have announced on Facebook the official publication date of the "extremely scientific" Ketchum Bigfoot DNA Study!

However, there is one small problem with that.
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Wednesday, December 5, 2012


Do you want to know what was REALLY GOING ON in the Melba Ketchum DNA Study? Well, you don't know jack unless you've listened to JavaBob (Bob Schmalzbach) spill most of the beans in this great Ro Sahebi interview. Yes, it covers the NEPHILIM, the broken corporation, the exile of Richard Stubstad, and the fact that Stubstad DID indeed make the first real "discovery" in the genome.

This somewhat neglected interview is, so far as I can tell, the most significant and important leak as yet to come out of the Ketchumite camp. It is a Must-See for all concerned about the validity of this study, in all its good and bad points.

No matter how much they lie or try to cover it up, this interview proves that the "ET/Angel DNA" issue is a real belief of Ketchum. You want "Proof"? THIS IS IT.

JavaBob in this interview was the FOURTH source from whom I had heard confirmation of the Nephilim being in the Ketchum paper. At this point it was clearly true. I'd heard the thing about Ketchum thinking there was "something out of this world in the DNA " about a year and a half ago, and had to sit on it until this interview, "Published on Mar 30, 2012," proved it.

Many people associate JavaBob with Tom Biscardi. This is true, or was. He is EX-Biscardi, a defector. Fact is, he is telling the truth. He defected from Biscardi a while back. What he has to say is very interesting. Listen closely to the interview.

I'll have a much more in-depth article on this whole topic appearing on my main blog, BIGFOOT'S BLOG, in the near future. Watch for that. The truth is stranger than you'd have thought.

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Wednesday, November 28, 2012

QUESTIONS FOR IGOR BURTSEV, with Analysis of the Ketchum Bigfoot DNA Study Flap

This is a sort of compendium and quick analysis of the fast-breaking madness hitting the Bigfoot world and the national media of late. I'll have a larger version of this post up on my regular page, BIGFOOT'S BLOG, soon.

Recently a huge media flap was started by a seemingly innocent post by Russian "Hominologist," Igor Bursev, after he posted information disclosing "secrets" about the uber-secretive Melba Ketchum Bigfoot DNA Project. Supposedly, this study has been in peer review for publication in a professional scientific journal. This could, of course, prove that Bigfoot may indeed exist... not the publication, but the scrutiny and potential acceptance of the methodology and data that the paper presents. Unfortunately, no one but the inner cabal knows the actual data/method content of the paper. What we have gotten, for the past two years now at least, is a myriad of leaks and supposition, many coming from the Ketcumites themselves, or Ketchum herself (despite the claimed need for silence during review and research).

Most problematic is the question, IS BURTSEV ALSO A KETCHUMITE? His apparent ladyfriend, Robyn Lynne ForestPerson is now apparently the media spokesperson for Ketchum. Igor spends much time with her in the suburban woods of Michigan pursuing possibly phantom Bigfeets. Well, so, Igor leaked this "news," but was it even news? Was there anything actually NEW in it? No. Basically everything in their press announcement has been known already by the Bigfoot community for over a year. It did, in fact, confirm and vindicate about 90% of the stories published by sometime Bigfoot blogger Robert Lindsay. These stories by Lindsay have been consistently denied by the Ketchum Kamp, and they have spoken constantly about the need for secrecy during the peer review process. Countless times during the four years passed in which this study has been ongoing they have said it would be published SOON. Well, it hasn't been published, and it hasn't even been announced that it has passed the peer review process. Ketchum herself said that is had NOT passed peer review. Where is the PROOF in the pudding? So far there is none.

What is going on here? It's pretty clear, folks... they are waging a PUBLIC RELATIONS campaign, meant to circumvent and precede any announcements coming from the Oxford-Lausanne Collateral Hominid Project, headed by a real advanced academic scientist, Bryan Sykes. The timeframe and description of the project:
As part of a larger enquiry into the genetic relationship between our own species Homo sapiens and other hominids, we invite submissions of organic material from formally undescribed species, or “cryptids”, for the purpose of their species identification by genetic means.
The project is divided into three phases.
DNA ANALYSIS PHASE September – November 2012
PUBLICATION PHASE November – December 2012

Isn't it clear? Burtsev was used (or let it appear that way) to get the as-yet unpublishable Ketchum paper into the news ahead of Sykes.

I'll say this: Even if this Bigfoot DNA paper passes review and is published, its findings and methods will still need to be scrutinized by the larger scientific community before it can be considered valid scientific fact. Publication does not prove a proposition; it offers the proposition up for scrutiny.

In this frame of thought, I've come up with some questions for Igor. Below, keep reading for examples of what Igor actually said, as found on the COALITION FOR REASON, SCIENCE AND SANITY IN BIGFOOT RESEARCH page on Facebook. I sincerely hope that Burtsev will answer these, but now he has had yesterday and today with no answer yet. This should dispel some rumors, such as the one that the paper is going to be published in a Russian scientific (or even paranormalist) journal. What was going on that led up to this? Igor wanted to help Ketchum, obviously, but also to dispel false statements made in the Russian media about Bigfoot DNA. Read onward...

Igor Burtsev, will you clarify some issues and rumors?

1) Did you release the information about the DNA study on behalf of Ketchum, or despite her wishes that you or anyone not do so?

2) Is there any truth to the rumor that you are going to publish the DNA study in a Russian journal? Did you mean to imply that, or were you just talking about publishing your press release about it?

3) Is it the same Robin Lynne (ForestPerson) that you have worked with who is now Ketchum's publicist?

4) Are you, then, involved with the Ketchum project yourself (an insider, so to speak), and privy to its full details and potential publication status?

5) Will it EVER be published in a peer reviewed journal? I ask this because your second statement the other day implied that it was being SUPPRESSED by the scientific status quo establishment and was most likely to be rejected or "covered-up."

6) Why, after so many months (years) of stating that she COULD NOT talk about the paper before its peer review and publication, did she (and you) suddenly leak the summary of results and findings? This is a direct self-contradiction, and seems also to violate all the principles of the professional publication process spoken of earlier and constantly. In fact, it seems like "Science by Press Release," rather than real professional Science in practice.

7) Was this information released to circumvent and precede the upcoming results from the Sykes Oxford-Lausanne DNA study?

8) How can they (or you) declare this to be "Proof" of Bigfoot's existence, not to mention its supposed Human status (complete with political agenda) when the paper has NOT YET PASSED peer review, let alone scrutiny from the larger community of scientists post-publication?

9) Igor Burtsev, what field of study is your degree in, and at what equivalent level would that hold in the United States (a doctorate, or a master's degree as Paul Vella has said)? Are you a Scientist or Historian? I'm just curious. Thanks!

Does Igor have a Ph.D., since he calls himself "Doctor," and allows many others to call him that? Is he a scientist, even? Well, here is what is said on his own web page:
Igor Burtsev, born in 1940, candidate of historical sciences, publisher, president of the Cryptosphere Fund for furthering scientific searches and explorations, director of the International Center of Hominology.
What are "historical sciences"? What is meant by "candidate"? It would seem that Burtsev has not completed a dissertation, and is actually some form of historian.

Paul Vella, one-time honcho at the Bigfoot Forums, had this to say:
Paul Vella We had a case a few years back of a guy in the same professional field as me, who like Burtsev had a qualification that he was led to believe was the 'equivalent' of a Bachelor of Science Degree - for years he produced reports for court with BSc in hisqualifications, and swore under oath that he had a degree. When it was discovered that he only 'thought' he had a degree because he was told it was equivalent to, he was prosecuted for perjury.
This is the situation Burtsev is in - he may well believe his qualification is equivalent to a Phd, but the reality is that it isn't, and isn't recognised in the west as a Phd.
In the same way that a UK Veterinarian, unlike a US Veterinarian is not a 'Doctor' - if a UK Vet moves to the US, they can't start calling themselves 'Dr' just because US Vets do - the UK qualification does not allow you to call yourself doctor even though it is more stringent than the US qualification.
This is the same argument we had years ago about Moneymaker referring to himself as a 'Lawyer' even though he never took or passed the Bar in any US state and never practised law.

What did Igor really say? HERE:

URGENT announcement from Igor Burtsev ...

"International Center of Hominology (Russia)

The DNA analysis of the Bigfoot/Sasquatch specimen conducted by Dr. Melba Ketchum the head of DNA Diagnostics, Timpson, TX, USA has been over!
Team of American scientists led by Dr. Melba Ketchum for five years has analyzed 109 purported samples of such creatures. The study has sequenced DNA of a novel North American hominin, commonly called Bigfoot or Sasquatch.
There were a large number of laboratories associated with this study including academic, private and government laboratories in which blind testing was utilized to avoid prejudice in testing. Great time and care was taken in the forensic laboratories to assure no contamination occurred with any of the samples utilized in this study.
After 5 years of this study the scientists can finally answer the question of what sasquatch really is. It is human like us only different, a hybrid of a human with unknown species. Early field research shows that the Bigfoot/Sasquatches are massively intelligent which has enabled them to avoid detection to a large extent. They are different than us, however human nonetheless.
The hybridization event could not have occurred more than 15000 years ago according to the mitochondrial data in some samples. Origin of this hominin was probably Middle Eastern/Eastern Europe and Europe originally though other geographic areas are not excluded.
The manuscript associated with this study has been submitted to a scientific reviewed magazine.
For years people have refused to believe they exist. Now that we know that they are real, it is up to us to protect them from those that would hunt or try to capture them for research or for sport. They should be left alone to live as they live now. After all, they are our relatives.
At this time, analysis of the Sasquatch genomes is still ongoing. Further data will be presented in the future following this original study. Additionally, analysis of various hair samples purportedly from Siberian Wildman are being tested in an effort to determine if relatedness exists between the Sasquatch and Russian Wildman.

Dr. Igor Burtsev,
Head of International Center of Hominology,
Moscow, Russia +7(916)812-6253 "

THIS IS A PRESS RELEASE, dealing with Igor's concerns over the Russian media posting false stories, not an announcement that the Ketchum paper will be published in Russia. Why are people thinking that Igor is going to publish the DNA paper? It makes no sense at all.

OK, and then Igor responded to a question (he hasn't yet answered mine, above, go figure):
Igor Burtsev
I have received a question:

I have one question, what motivated you to share what you did today?
... and that you simply didn't understand that you weren't supposed to release the information until the American Journal first published the results.

I'm answering.
We waited a couple of years the scientific publication by Dr. Melba Ketchum. But scientific magazines refuse to publish her nanuscript which deserves to be published. And I want to remind some facts of the destiny of scolars in our field.
Before the First World War our zoologist Vitaly Khahlov described the creature, named it Primihomo asiaticus. He send his scientific peport very circumstantial, thorough to the Russian Academy of Sciences. And what? The report was put into the box, and had stayed there till 1959, about half of century. Until Dr. Porshnev found it and published...
Dr. Porshnev himself had written a monograph "The present State of the Question of Relict Hominoids". It was issued in 1963 by the Academy of Sciences in some 180 copies only, for a special use. Only after a half of century (again!) it was publishe 1n 2012 in 2500 copies...
In 1960ths Mongolian Academician Rinchen had sent the skull of supposed almas to Poland, becaus our anthropologists refused to study it. Poland's anthropologist made a sculptural portrait of that creature, Rinchen called it Homo sapiens almas in 1960ths. But - it has been forgotten till last years... Again half a century!
I don't want the new discovery (not the first one, but the next one) to wait for another half a century to be recognized by haughty official scientific establishment!
That is why I broke the tradition, did not let this acheavement to wayt for ne[t half a century to be recognized. No matter of the publication in the scientific magazine^ people should know NOW, what bigfoot/sasquatch is.
As I know, one third of population of the USA believe in exuiosting of these creatures. And they deserve to know WHAT THEY ARE.

NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY? That is what the above is: Conspiracy Theory. If the manuscript is worthy and worthwhile Science, then it will be published.

What was Igor's real concern, and why was he releasing this press release? If not FOR Ketchum, then he did it to further refute THIS story, from the end of October and beginning of November:

  • Igor Burtsev In that comment published in Siberian Times there was a soft edition of my attitude. I can say more strictly: Dr Sapunov is a liar, he just tryed to make his PR, publicity, as he did it some times before also. Now I feel it was a pity that I attracted him to attend that conference and had given him several hairs from Azass cave to study. And he didn't inform me about results before publishing them first time about a year ago. After I made him warning for that, and he accused the reporter in exagerrating results. But again he claimed about "Study" this time - in the newspapers and on the TV (twice). Now it can't be forgiven him.
  • Igor Burtsev This lie was not initiated by the Kemerovo authorities, but by Sapunov himself, separately. He lives and works in St.Petersburg, some 3000 miles away of Kemerovo city
  • Igor Burtsev The truth is that I've sent the hair samples to Japan, Italy, USA (TX), and Great Britain (Bryan Sykes project), and am waiting the DNA results

    and more....

  • Steven Streufert More hoaxy bullshit. Did they or did they not actually do a DNA analysis? Where are the results and data? It sounds more like they just looked at hair under a microscope.
  • Igor Burtsev Yes? you are right Steven, Dr Sapunov himself just did look at the sample under a microscope, but he is not a specialist on the hair, and he didn't compare with such samles as from apes or some animals usual in those areas (like a bear)/ Re DNA - NOBODY exzamined the samples in Russia. But I sent the sample to Japan, Italy, Great Britain (Dr Sykes' project), and TX, and now wait for the results. They haven't received yet. That proclamation in the news were just a PR action of Dr S., not of the Siberian authorities/
  • Igor Burtsev And I don't agree with Dr. Meldrum, that the findings there in October of the previous year were orchestrated by authorities. The footprints there in the cave had the dermal ridges, and the wood arches found there were not made by humans, and they are very similar to Fverican ones... Also one month later new footprints were found by a local family on the snow in the same district, just about 50 km away of that cave.

    Igor Burtsev In this article there is mix of true and untrue info.
1/ This photo is not of Dr Sapunov, but somebody else
2/ That info about DNA analysis was made up by a journalist yet in December of 2011 and repeated now. Sapunov didn't tell that/
3/ Only untrue i
s his saying about the structure of the hair/ No hair specialists looked at the sample, just Sapunov himself. But he is not a hair-specialist, though his speciality is biology/ I believe it was necessary to compare the structure of that sample with other animals' hairs, and it was not done.
4/ But the academician Oleg Pugachyov from very beginning haughty refused to study the sample named it with upsetting word. that is why Sapunov started to studiy it by himself
5/ I have sent the hairs from Azass cave, Siberia, to DNA labs of four countries including the Dr Sykes project in UK and am waiting for results. We need just a little patiency to make conclusion, if those hairs are of Bigfoot or other animals.

Oh well. People are going to believe what they want to believe, I guess.

The Ketchum "Bigfoot DNA" copyright application from some two years ago now. Is it any different from the "news" in the last release? Nope, not really. Foregone conclusion, or is she a prophet?

Type of Work Preregistered: Motion Picture
Literary Work in Book Form
Advertising or Marketing Photograph

Preregistration Number / Date: PRE000003852 / 2010-09-16
Application Title: Sasquatch: The Tribe Revealed
Title: Sasquatch: The Tribe Revealed
Copyright Claimant: Melba Stinnett Ketchum. Address: TX, 75975, United States.
Creation of Work Began: 2008-04-07 (Approximate)
Date of Anticipated Completion: 2011-06-22 (Approximate)
Projected Date of Publication: 2012-02-15 (Approximate)
Authorship on Application: Melba Stinnett Ketchum.
Description of Work: A film and/or documentary, narration or audio book, supporting photos and literary paper/document/book that will follow the The Sasquatch Project, the scientist and the scientific testing and proof for the existence of Sasquatch/ Bigfoot. Information will include discussion of results including A New Tribe of Living Humans, the complete Sasquatch mitochondrial genome sequence and nuclear DNA variations and text will show complete mitochondrial (mt) genome sequences were identified from DNA, analysis of the assembled sequence unequivocally establishes that the Sasquatch mtDNA falls inside the range of modern human mtDNAs and discussions of the origins thereof. The proof that the Sasquatch is not only the closest living human relative but is actually a contemporary living human. Also discussed is nuclear DNA testing performed on the same samples and the variations found in various genes including MC1R gene RUNX2 and FOXP2 as well as other targets genes involved in the perception of sound, transmission of nerve signals, the production of sperm and the lactase gene. Also discussed is how testing has ruled out ape cross and any ancient contributor and that Sasquatch is indeed a modern human with some genetic mutations accounting for their physical appearance. Also included are discussion of the history of samples and circumstances surrounding the acquisition, their testing, the circumstances surrounding the entire Sasquatch DNA Project. Documentary stars Melba Ketchum, et al
Copyright Note: C.O. correspondence.
Names: Ketchum, Melba Stinnett




Five-Year Genome Study Yields Evidence of Homo sapiens/Unknown Hominin Hybrid Species in North America

Contact: Robin Lynne,, 231.622.5362

DALLAS, Nov. 24--A team of scientists can verify that their 5-year long DNA study, currently under peer-review, confirms the existence of a novel hominin hybrid species, commonly called “Bigfoot” or “Sasquatch,” living in North America. Researchers’ extensive DNA sequencing suggests that the legendary Sasquatch is a human relative that arose approximately 15,000 years ago as a hybrid cross of modern Homo sapiens with an unknown primate species.

The study was conducted by a team of experts in genetics, forensics, imaging and pathology, led by Dr. Melba S. Ketchum of Nacogdoches, TX. In response to recent interest in the study, Dr. Ketchum can confirm that her team has sequenced 3 complete Sasquatch nuclear genomes and determined the species is a human hybrid:

“Our study has sequenced 20 whole mitochondrial genomes and utilized next generation sequencing to obtain 3 whole nuclear genomes from purported Sasquatch samples. The genome sequencing shows that Sasquatch mtDNA is identical to modern Homo sapiens, but Sasquatch nuDNA is a novel, unknown hominin related to Homo sapiens and other primate species. Our data indicate that the North American Sasquatch is a hybrid species, the result of males of an unknown hominin species crossing with female Homo sapiens.

Hominins are members of the taxonomic grouping Hominini, which includes all members of the genus Homo. Genetic testing has already ruled out Homo neanderthalis and the Denisova hominin as contributors to Sasquatch mtDNA or nuDNA. “The male progenitor that contributed the unknown sequence to this hybrid is unique as its DNA is more distantly removed from humans than other recently discovered hominins like the Denisovan individual,” explains Ketchum.

“Sasquatch nuclear DNA is incredibly novel and not at all what we had expected. While it has human nuclear DNA within its genome, there are also distinctly non-human, non-archaic hominin, and non-ape sequences. We describe it as a mosaic of human and novel non-human sequence. Further study is needed and is ongoing to better characterize and understand Sasquatch nuclear DNA.”

Ketchum is a veterinarian whose professional experience includes 27 years of research in genetics, including forensics. Early in her career she also practiced veterinary medicine, and she has previously been published as a participant in mapping the equine genome. She began testing the DNA of purported Sasquatch hair samples 5 years ago.

Ketchum calls on public officials and law enforcement to immediately recognize the Sasquatch as an indigenous people:

“Genetically, the Sasquatch are a human hybrid with unambiguously modern human maternal ancestry. Government at all levels must recognize them as an indigenous people and immediately protect their human and Constitutional rights against those who would see in their physical and cultural differences a ‘license’ to hunt, trap, or kill them.”

Full details of the study will be presented in the near future when the study manuscript publishes." 

Her "results," then, preceded completion of testing of the samples. This is to include preceding the one that revolutionized the study, the Sierra Kills slab, as well as glossing over the discoveries later made by Richard Stubstad. It is radically coincidental, too much so, that the press release is nearly identical to the prior statement. It does indeed suggest a foregone conclusion, one that in fact matches exactly with what Paulides and Ketchum said at the very start, on Coast to Coast AM, some four years back as I recall. The belief predated the research, and has clearly biased and distorted the interpretation of the data. So, there is no new "news," and the stuff was largely fictional to begin with.

...But really, NOTHING HAS CHANGED. All that happened was that Igor said something, and forced a response from the otherwise clammed-up Ketchum, and Paulides wrote his first blog entry since March 2012. The news? NOTHING. Or, maybe, Igor was acting in COLLUSION with the Ketchum group?
Notice how everyone is trying to insert themselves into the scene before Sykes publishes anything, even if they had no valid samples in any study? They are scrambling for attention and relevance.

Here is part of what David Paulides said, just hours after the supposed "leak" by Burtsev. It sure seems like a prepared statement to me, one prepared in advance...

The DNA Project/Update

It’s been many months that myself and members of our team have silently watched the progress of our Bigfoot DNA Project under the guidance of Dr. Melba Ketchum. Silence in this research arena tends to push outsiders to make rash and irresponsible comments. In the technology world, silence about projects is routine, expected and is part of the landscape. In the bigfoot world, people in the past have been boisterous with wild claims, accusations and irresponsible behavior the norm. Our group (North America Bigfoot Search) has been trying to live by a different standard, a professional standard that the rest of the world understands and appreciates.

In the last twelve months you have seen a variety of groups suddenly take interest in bigfoot DNA. Where was that interest four years ago when we started our DNA Project? Dr. Jeff Meldrum has gone to Europe with his interest and utilized the resources of Oxford University in an attempt to develop a DNA sequence on Bigfoot. A weekly show about bigfoot also has just recently found an interest in bigfoot DNA and is trying to exploit this avenue, and there are others. There is not one group that has developed the scientific team and the high number of quality specimens to even come close to what North America Bigfoot Search and Dr. Ketchum’s team of esteemed scientists have accomplished.

The public perception of bigfoot, sasquatch and wild men is about to change forever. It has always been our belief that there would come a time when researchers would no longer be calling them animals, apes and human type gorillas, those statements will be reserved for re-runs of your favorite screamers and tree bangers. Yes, you are reading this correctly, times are about to change. I have consistently stated that we are close to a release date. We are very, very close.

Dr. Ketchum and her team of scientists and laboratories have been able to sequence three complete genomes, getting identical results independently verified by different labs. This is not a casual everyday finding, this will cause the scientific community to stand up and take notice. Many people have claimed to know what our results were, nearly everyone was wrong, even some high profile media people that have just recently made comments, all were wrong.

Dr. Ketchum originally found the combination to unlock bigfoot DNA and utilized top scientists in various fields to validate her results. The results were independently verified with the group silently sitting on these findings for months, as the results were validated a third and fourth time. Remember, this isn’t one total genome sequence; it’s three with dozens and dozens of other findings validating the results. The exact number of specimens, the number of mitochondrial results and the specifics of the scientific white paper will be released very, very soon. The paper is very complex and filled with amazing findings. 

...The one person that was able to unlock the safe to understanding bigfoot DNA, Dr. Melba Ketchum. Where every other scientist gave up and claimed contamination, Dr. Ketchum continued to move forward. Where every other scientist was unable to turn the corner, Dr. Ketchum did. This lady did not understand the word “defeat,” she is a true pioneer in her field! 

...David Paulides, Director, North America Bigfoot Search
Friday at 5:41pm 

Here is what Jeff Meldrum had to day about this nonsense:

The press release was frankly premature and unprofessional given the lack of any published reviewed results.It apparently was precipitated by a leak of information that was pubicized. Let's wait and see what the published results will be and how they are to be INTERPRETED.
BTW -- the spokesperson would divulge neither a timeline for publication, nor which journal received the submission.She did however inform us that they were in regular communication (psychic?) with sasquatch, and that they (the sasquatch) were enthusiastic about the study and the press release, and are completely supportive of Melba's project.
[That being the case, one could ask why one or two of them (the sasquatch) doesn't just come forward and hold their own press conference.]

Add to all of this the talk from the horse doctor's own mouth about the Nephilim and some kind of Bigfoot molesting her and, well, you've got a very, very strange brew going on here. They deny the story about "Angel DNA," but...
By "angel" she means the FALLEN ANGELS, basically the "Ancient Alien" theory. Bigfoot are the Nephilim. She has actually SAID this. She has expressed it obliquely in her press release by referring to something "novel" in the DNA. She told Wally and others that the DNA was from "out of this world." Paulides has said that the Bigfoot lineage "STOPS" at some point, and from there there is no precedent in the DNA databases of earthly life. This can only mean one thing: the DNA is alien, or was manipulated by aliens. Say "angels" if you want. This is NOT Science. This is metaphysical lunacy. Much of this was reported by Robert Lindsay, and they called him a nutcase. I'd heard it from utterly reliable sources about a year and a half ago. I was asked at that time not to talk about it. I didn't, until I'd heard multiple other sources of confirmation, such as from the Stubstad/JavaBob connection. Rhettman A Mullis Jr can confirm this--it came right from Ketchum, in her own words, in a four hour phone conversation he had with her. It was a similar situation with the recent news of her thinking she was molested by a Bigfoot that zapped and possibly raped her. SHE said it. It wasn't just some weird gossip meant to disparage her reputation. David Paulides denies "Angel DNA" is in the paper. However, the idea of the Nephilim WAS in the first version of the paper, according to the Stubstad-JavaBob reports. She used the word "angel" in private conversations later. It's a fact, folks... this is what she BELIEVES.

It also shows how belief precedes and conditions reality formation in the human mind. The real question is whether this belief pre-biased the supposed science of this DNA study and paper. It is a deep error to mix science with mythology, legend and religion. There may be truth of a kind in the latter, but the former seeks to discover and prove things that are literally real, not just figuratively so.

And here is a big problem. Ketchum is saying that Bigfoot are a hybrid species formed rather recently by an unknown hominin/primate mating with modern Homo sapiens women. What if the samples she is studying are just the special case, and this unknown progenitor is the real Bigfoot? Hence is created an infinite regress of who begat whom. Also re. status as human, with constitutional and legal rights beyond animal management issues, comes with responsibility: How can we grant such rights and status to a creature that not only disdains law but also human contact, and one that lives essentially as a wild animal does?

The problem of hybridization, on Bigfoot Evidence:
Reactions from Scientists on Bigfoot Lunch Club...
Doubtful News has these views...
Robert Lindsay Classics...

The Bigfoot Show did a fabulous new podcast episode on the recent Bigfoot DNA fiasco.
Episode 43 - Deoxyribonucleic Antics: The Revenge - has spliced itself into the very DNA of the internet. Featuring an interview with an honest-to-god expert, Dr. Todd Disotell of Cornell University, the boys venture into the mysterious world of Melba Ketchum and barely make it out in one piece. Get the show via iTunes, Stitcher, or rock the DDL:

I hear the final death rattle of the Ketchum Project. It's over, folks.